The Pink Floyd Vinyl Bootleg Guide

S1: ECHOES/POINT ME AT THE SKY**

S2: ONE OF THESE DAYS/ATOM HEART MOTHER** /ASTRONOMY DOMINE**

SQ: EXCELLENT MONO AND STEREO

COMMENTS: US BOOTLEG WITH PAPER INSERT COVER. MADE BY 'KEN' AT THE END OF HIS TAKRL PARTNERSHIP. THIS IS A REPRESS OF 'NOCTURNAL SUBMISSION' USING THE ORIGINAL TAKRL PLATES WITH THE OLD TAKRL '1913 A/B' MATRIX NUMBER SCRATCHED OUT AND '#14' ADDED. THIS IS THE USUAL RELEASE BUT THERE ARE SOME VARIATIONS SHOWN BELOW... LARGELY DUE TO MISTAKES BY THE BOOTLEGGER - STAY WITH IT BECAUSE THIS GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING....

VARIATION ONE: THERE WAS REPORTED TO BE A VERSION OF THIS ALBUM WITHOUT THE MATRIX NUMBERS SCRATCHED OUT AND WITH BLUE 'WORLDS RECORDS' LABELS. HOWEVER - NO COPIES OF THIS EVER SEEM TO HAVE SURFACED SO ITS EXISTENCE IS QUESTIONABLE.

VARIATION TWO: THE WRONG BOOTLEG (OHM SUITE OHM - TAKRL 1933) WAS ERRONEOUSLY PLACED AND SOLD IN 'ASTRAL PROJECTION' COVERS.

VARIATION THREE: AFTER THE WRONG BOOTLEG (OHM SUITE OHM - TAKRL 1933) WAS SOLD IN 'ASTRAL PROJECTION' COVERS, AND BEFORE REALISING HIS MISTAKE THE BOOTLEGGER THEN CROSSED OUT THE 1933 MATRIX AND ADDED #14 - WHETHER ANY OF THIS VARIANT WERE PRESSED IS UNKNOWN.

FURTHER COMMENTS: THE MISTAKE OF MAKING (AND POSSIBLY USING?) VARIATION THREE SHOWN ABOVE WAS AT SOME POINT REALISED BY THE BOOTLEGGER AND NUMBER #14 WAS THEN SCRATCHED OUT AND TAKRL 1933 WAS RE-WRITTEN AGAIN AS THE MATRIX. AT LEAST ONE PRESSING OF 'OHM SUITE OHM' WAS MADE WITH THESE REVISED PLATES. THIS NEW INFORMATION IS DUE TO THE TIRELESS RESEARCH OF BILL PALMIERI (THANKS BILL!). HIS ORIGINAL NOTES ARE SHOWN BELOW THE LABEL PICS.

RARITY RATING: (1913 MATRIX SCRATCHED OUT AND #14 ADDED) (1933 MATRIX SCRATCHED OUT AND #14 ADDED AND 1913 MATRIX NOT SCRATCHED OUT & WORLDS RECORD LABELS - IF EITHER OF THEM EXIST)

YEAR OF RELEASE: 1976

SOURCE: * BBC PARIS THEATRE 30-09-1971 ** OFFICIAL RELEASES *** KQED BROADCAST FILLMORE WEST, SAN FRANCISCO 29-04-1970.

KNOWN LABEL VARIATIONS: TAKRL PLAIN - WORLD RECORDS - WORLDS RECORDS (UNCONFIRMED).

BILL'S NOTES: Ok, here goes, sorry that this is long. By way of introduction, this is me using the information that I had before me to try to figure out the maze of Astral and Ohm pressings. I hope that what I know and what I am surmising is apparent. Further facts -- such as a confirmation of the existence of the blue Worlds Records label with uncrossed out matrix would be helpful! As originally written:

An update of Astral Projection and Ohm Suite Ohm (and Nocturnal Submission), and how they interrelate vis a vis the matrix numbers and pressings.

In the current Astral listing, the site[FloydBoots.com] states that the presumed first pressing is on the Worlds Records label, and shows a blue label. Presumably, this says "TAKRL 1913", as appears on my copies of Nocturnal, and is not scratched out. I cannot verify this, as I have yet to turn up a copy of this. My inquiry is whether the existence of this has in fact been verified.
What I have discovered -- and this is where the new information begins -- is what appears to be an error variant that crosses over between this title (Astral) and Ohm. I have a copy of Astral that has a black label Worlds Record lp, with unscratched matrix. [I now have two copies; this post is a third]. The kicker is that the lp is TAKRL 1933 (Ohm), and not TAKRL 1913. When I first turned this up, I thought that the lp found its way into the jacket erroneously, by seller or previous owner error. Recently, however, I turned up an identical copy, with the same error. (Both have the tricolor cover). I have the scratched matrix variant with the identical label and tricolor cover, and it has the 1913 plate, as it is supposed to . I also have a plain label, 2 color insert, and it has the same plate, 1913 crossed out.

Here is a lisrt of my copies:

Astral Projection tricolor cover, black Worlds Record label, still in shrink (wrong record - TAKRL 1933 instead of 1913, plays Ohm Suite Ohm, unlisted error var.)

Astral Projection tricolor cover, black Worlds Record label (wrong record - TAKRL 1933 instead of 1913, plays Ohm Suite Ohm, unlisted error var.)

Astral Projection 14 A/B tricolor cover, black Worlds Record label, 1913 matrix scratched out, still in shrink

Astral Projection 14 A/B, pink/brown insert cover, TAKRL plain white Side One/Side Two typed labels, 1913 matrix scratched out, still in shrink

I did a bit of further investigation, and here is what I found:

Ohm Suite Ohm TAKRL-A/B, tan insert, plain Labels [matrix: orig TAKRL 1933, crossed out; #14-A/B written in and crossed out; 1933-A/B handwritten in diff hand] (unl. var.)

What I conclude is that after the split, Ken erroneously used the 1933 plate for Astral Projection, pressing the copies I have with the uncrossed out matrix. Still not realizing his mistake, at some point he then crossed out the 1933 matrix and wrote in #14-A/B, as appears on the correct 1913 crossed out Astrals and my copy of Ohm. Whether or not he pressed any Astrals with the 1933 matrix crossed out and #14 written in I cannot say. At some point, he realized his error, (that he thought the 1933 plate was the 1913, after he had written in #14.) Then, he crossed out the #14, and rewrote in the correct TAKRL 1933 number --hence, my copy of Ohm with the two matrix scratch outs. The #14 writing and the second 1933 writing seem to match.

It seems that the very first Astral Projections were errors, where Ken used the Ohm, rather than the Nocturnal plates. An easy mistake to make, confusing 1933 for 1913. This is supported by the Ohm pressing with the Astral number written in and crossed off -- also another rarity?

I hope that this provides some interesting info. I am itching to know if there really is a blue label Worlds Record 1913 uncrossed matrix pressing. If so, this too supports the theory I set forth. Here it goes: when Ken discovered his error, he got the right plate, and started pressing correct Astrals right away, with the 1913 plate. He did not add in the new number, but used a blue, rather than black Worlds Record label to distinguish between the correct and the error pressings.

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